Cherry Shrimp

[Kwyet]

I never heard of Kanoko before!

 

[gnatster]

Shrimp grading is like record grading. The pros are good at it; everyone else has near mint.

 

[techman81]

So evidently, Neocaridina Davidi and Neocaridina Palmata can't interbreed, so having a Blue Pearl and a Blue dream in the same tank would be ok. I assume something called Blue Rose would be Davidi (like Black Rose, which I think is what I have mixed with my Yellows) and offspring from those and Blue Dream would result in "who knows?"

 

[techman81]

This is where I think the naming is a little wild, wild west. I have "Sunkist" Orange. Where do those fall in the grading system?

 

[Koan]

evidently, Neocaridina Davidi and Neocaridina Palmata can't interbreed

Actually my understanding is those two species are closely enough related they do interbreed

Dwarf Shrimp Compatibility Chart​

 

[techman81]

Actually my understanding is those two species are closely enough related they do interbreed

Dwarf Shrimp Compatibility Chart - Tool​

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So my first search said no, but I searched again and came up with yes, because they are the same genus.

 

[Kwyet]

This is where I think the naming is a little wild, wild west. I have "Sunkist" Orange. Where do those fall in the grading system?

Sunkist, pumpkin etc are supposed to indicate the shade of orange but don’t indicate the grade. Grade determinations are similar to the red neos, but newer colors like this aren’t as defined. I see “Sakura Sunkist” but I think it’s more a matter of low, medium and high grade, and of course patterns like Rili.

 

[Koan]

20 mins of full-on shrimp pigmentation genetics geekery

 

[techman81]

Competitive shrimp breeding. Goals!

I remember doing fruit fly genetics experiments in high school advanced biology 45 years ago.

 

[hamfist]

This is where I think the naming is a little wild, wild west.

Ain't that the truth. IME, huge numbers of sellers simply make up the name of the shrimp colour morph they are selling. E.g. very few Bloody Mary shrimp actually advertised for sale will be from the "shoko" line as per of the graphics on the previous page.

UNless you are buying from a well known and respected seller you'll never really quite know what you get if ordering blind on the www.

 

[BenB]

Looking at this again. Probably will still get cold feet, but I know you guys like to talk about shrimp anyway, so it's good.

I too feel your pain with the price but there is more variety now-a-days.

I know I saw this quote when @Art posted it, but I just re-discovered it and it's just so true. Years ago there was just red. Pale-ish red. Then there was yellow, I believe. Now, the red is so much darker and there are so many other colors. Additionally, there are these reds with dark flame looking patterns in them. It really makes you want to spend $10/shrimp. Damnit!! Not helpful.

Anyway, I just have this one little tank and no fish. What do you do when the shrimp population goes crazy? Shrimp genocide? Not a fan of the idea. I don't want to deal with people to get rid of them. I could maybe on occasion take them to a club meeting.

 

[Kwyet]

There was a recent thread about this:

Thread 'How Many Shrimp?'
How Many Shrimp?

The key is just to let them self-regulate by not continually increasing the food. When mine were in small dedicated tanks I would just feed them a pellet or two (or a frozen baby spinach ball) once a week, always have a degrading catappa leaf in the tank, and let them scavenge the rest of the time.

 

[techman81]

There was a recent thread about this:

Thread 'How Many Shrimp?'
How Many Shrimp?

The key is just to let them self-regulate by not continually increasing the food. When mine were in small dedicated tanks I would just feed them a pellet or two (or a frozen baby spinach ball) once a week, always have a degrading catappa leaf in the tank, and let them scavenge the rest of the time.

Yep, after the responses to my post, I'm just going to let my Sunkist Orange shrimp breed until they decide to stop. I also only give mine a pellet or 2 of treats each week and the rest of the time they are on their own to eat algae. and whatever.

 

[JacksonL]

I find expensive colours all end up fading, throwing out clears/wild types and becoming a skittles mix over time, unless you selectively cull/move even the slightest off-colour shrimp.
In a smaller tank like my 30L open scaped tank, this is possible. In a densely planted 100L+ tank this becomes an impossible chore.
I feel you are always better to just get culls from the colour you like cheaply, you will still end up with some decent coloured shrimp coming out in the tank. Always interesting to see the random colours and patterns that appear too.
I use my 130L as a cull destination for the shrimp in my smaller tank.

 

[HarryL]

I rarely feed in my 10 gallon tank, maybe once a month as treats, and the cherries in there really don't grow much in population and I think they've reached equilibrium now.

My 25 gallon cube I do feed about once a week to the ember tetras and the shrimp often gathers to eat the left overs at the bottom. They grow more but not over populate, and when they gather near the open carpet area, it's perfect timing for me to cull the ones I don't like as much to a smaller skittles shrimp tank I have.

Occasionally I bring some to local meetings.