Cherry Shrimp

[gnatster 446]

What flavor? I've only used the Complete Envy and the Lil' Stix. Both hold their structure until the snails find it.

 

[Koan 32]

Shrimp Envy

Shrimp Envy is the brand, which food was it?

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[Aquajack 3]

I've kept cherry shrimp (yep thats what I call them too) for a few years but wont show you the tank. There is nothing to see!
Only a small 15G, no heater, no filter, very basic light that I probably remember to put on half the time and occasional water change. I deliberately haven't set this tank up as a show tank or anything. Literally sits right in the corner of the shed.

They basically look after themselves. Feed them basic stuff maybe twice a week. Still breeding but contained. I would love to do a nice scape with about a 15G rimless tank which focusses on plants and only my shrimp collection to add in.

Main thing is to leave them alone. Also wouldn't put them into a newly cycled tank until its had a chance to establish some biofilm for the shrimp to graze on.

 

[Capraquaria 179]

Anybody who told me about Shrimp Envy @Koan , @ElleDee , @Kwyet , @gnatster , @Capraquaria I was feeding shrimp today that I was acclimating in a bucket. Do these pellets disintegrate? Either the shrimp ate them quickly or they fell apart. There was some black stuff in the bucket, but seemed too tiny and not enough to be the SE stick I put in. I broke it apart into 3 small bits.

For Shrimp Envy foods, I have fed the Complete, Shell Envy, and Growth formula pellets, and all have held their structure pretty well for a while in the tank (I use the feeding tube/glass dish in my tanks, so the food doesn't end up in the substrate as quickly). The only pellets I have put in that tend to disintegrate are the snowflake pellets. The shrimp like them, but they're messy...hence I keep snails in that tank, too for cleanup. If your pellets disappeared, your shrimpies were probably ravenous.

 

[BranchScape 33]

I have shell envy and it does dissolve but very slowly. I over fed once and fished some out 24 hours later and it still had its rabbit pellet structure. Sadly I should have taken that as a sign that my 4 juvenile Red breasted Acara even at 1 inch were going after my shrimp.

 

[BenB 1]

I have the Complete. That's the sample we got at the AGA.

 

[BenB 1]

FWIW pertaining to earlier discussion.... Yesterday I put a few chunks of the Shrimp Envy Complete into my tank.
They started to dissolve in heavy flow but they didn't immediately disintegrate. It depended on the flow. So they stick around pretty good.

 

[TheWetScape]

Shrimp envy (complete ) is what I feed my gazzilion different shrimp. It’s a great food. And a tiny bit of bacteria ae (1/8 of the recommended amount) I do actively cull my colors every couple of months into my 20 long plant farm tank. Where I have gotten some interesting colors pop out from the mixes, but all in all Neos are pretty bomb proof once established lol but for real algae clean up nothing touches Amanos.

 

[Kwyet 446]

I have to say, and then I’ll shut up about it, Bacter AE is strongly discouraged as false advertising and a good way to destroy your tank on TPT. I quit using it years ago and have never noticed a difference. If you are going to use it, it’s best to use a tiny amount rather than following the directions. They’ve had years and years to correct those directions too, but they haven’t. That says a lot to me.

 

[TheWetScape]

I have to say, and then I’ll shut up about it, Bacter AE is strongly discouraged as false advertising and a good way to destroy your tank on TPT. I quit using it years ago and have never noticed a difference. If you are going to use it, it’s best to use a tiny amount rather than following the directions. They’ve had years and years to correct those directions too, but they haven’t. That says a lot to me.

Yes! Like the directions say a scoop or something and I use like a tiny corner or that scoop and spread it on 3 tanks. It can cause ammonia spikes etc from what I’ve gathered.

 

[Kwyet 446]

Yes! Like the directions say a scoop or something and I use like a tiny corner or that scoop and spread it on 3 tanks. It can cause ammonia spikes etc from what I’ve gathered.

I also read that lowers the oxygen. I can’t verify, but just passing it along as a caution.

 

[TheWetScape]

I also read that lowers the oxygen. I can’t verify, but just passing it along as a caution.

I did read the same as well. I have never used the recommended amount since I looked it up before putting it in the tank and watched some videos and read the actual recommended amount should be like the tip of a toothpick! Seems absurd that they call for that whole scoop. I can’t comment on the oxygen either but I have definitely read the same thing. Although my shrimp love that stuff.

 

[JacksonL 3]

I have to say, and then I’ll shut up about it, Bacter AE is strongly discouraged as false advertising and a good way to destroy your tank on TPT. I quit using it years ago and have never noticed a difference. If you are going to use it, it’s best to use a tiny amount rather than following the directions. They’ve had years and years to correct those directions too, but they haven’t. That says a lot to me.

What is actually in it?

 

[JayP 427]

I have to say, and then I’ll shut up about it, Bacter AE is strongly discouraged as false advertising and a good way to destroy your tank on TPT. I quit using it years ago and have never noticed a difference. If you are going to use it, it’s best to use a tiny amount rather than following the directions. They’ve had years and years to correct those directions too, but they haven’t. That says a lot to me.

This is interesting and good to know, as I was completely unaware of these issues. I've used it on my nano shrimp tank per the instructions but only on a few occasions over the last 4-6 months. I never noticed anything bad or good about it, but I think I'll hold off on using it anymore now and I'll do some further reading.

 

[Koan 32]

Bacter AE is strongly discouraged as false advertising and a good way to destroy your tank

to this

The dose quantity recommended on the jar causes a massive bacterial spike as well as ammonia spike, and those frantically reproducing bacteria then hoover up the oxygen

But.. The principle of encouraging biofilm and of feeding shrimps in tiny dispersible form is still a great idea, that is how shrimps eat!

Biofilm is why shrimp keepers purchase little baggies of dried leaves and tiny cones and drop in pellets of compressed soybean-hull animal feed and call it Snowflake





I'll put in another shameless plug for Shrimply Canadian's dispersible food nano-granules , and then I'll shut up about it

 

[Koan 32]

What is actually in it?

According to the GlasGarten website, Bacter AE contains the following:

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Amino acids, polysaccarides, xylanase, glucanase, amylase, protease, hemicellulase, Bacillus subtilis, Pediococcus acidilactici (Lactobacillus)​

So basically bacterial culture medium: primarily large sugars and protein components, with sporulated bacteria and multiple sugar-, protein-, and cellulose-digestive enzymes

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