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Cheap CO2 Flow Meter Review

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I wanted to share my experience so far with a cheap flow meter from Aliexpress.
I am generally a “you get what you pay for” aquarist, but I have taken a gamble due to circumstances. It is still early days, but it feels like it may have paid off.
Looking to add a flow meter to help tune my CO2 in a newly set up 130L tank, I searched far and wide for the different options. They were few and far between, most were for far larger flows than I needed and those that were appropriate were ridiculously expensive to get to Australia. So I went searching on the various Chinese discount sites and came across the LZB-3WB flow meters. They are cheap… real cheap. Less than $30 Australian landed, which made me nervous, but felt it was worth a shot at that price.
Not knowing what flow ranges I would need I ordered a 6-60ml/minute model.
After installing it, it was clearly too high of a range for my tank, but it did allow for some visibility while adjusting CO2. It was certainly better than a bubble counter.
Here is a picture of it action:
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As you can see, the reading is below the scale of the meter, but with a marker I could at least set a starting point as I adjusted my CO2 higher. Also the adjustment valve was useless, a tiny turn would shut the flow off or open it to max out the meter.
I ordered the below as a replacement:
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2.5-25ml/minute seems like a good range for my tank.
As a bonus the valve is better than most standard regulator needle valves. I can adjust the flow in increments of about 1ml/minute.
Below is the valve in action:
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They have been in service for 2 months total now, 1 month each, so still an early review. It has been a solid upgrade though and was an easy install. They come with big 8mm barbed fittings but they can be unscrewed to reveal 1/8 female threads that standard needle valves for aquariums fit. I have also got some 1/8 to push fit fittings that I am yet to install as I am heading away on holiday for 2 weeks soon and don’t want to make any changes for the house-sitters to potentially have to fix!
Pros: adjusting my CO2 was made so much easier by being able to see exactly how much of an increase I was making with each adjustment. Monitoring that the valve isn’t drifting has been easy also, a quick check of the meter tells me it is steady.
Cons: I doubt that the reading is accurate. This means little to me, as I am not using it for a calculation or comparison between tanks. As long as the reading is consistent, even if it is wrong, I am fine with that. Also, the max pressure is listed as 40psi. I am unsure if that is a failure or accuracy maximum. Again, it doesn’t affect me as I run a low regulator pressure due to using a reactor. If I were using a diffuser that needed a high pressure, it may make me nervous.
As always, with any cheap gear, your mileage may vary. But, I thought it was worth sharing as it may help those with limited access to flow meters of appropriate sizes. So far it is proving to be the second best $25 I have spent on this tank, second only to the super red bristlenose I have in the tank.
 
Is it mounted directly to your regulator?
Yes, the outlet of my needle valve screws directly into the female thread of the flow meter. There is an O-ring to create a seal, tested with soapy water and it is gas-tight. On the outlet I have used a spare needle valve that I leave fully open, that then joins to my CO2 tubing.
I have a packet of 1/8” to 6mm push fit pneumatic air connectors to use as a more elegant solution when I am back from my holiday. They were about $4 from Aliexpress.
 
Nice one, I was just chatting in another thread about flow meters. I started looking at the Dwyer models but as you mentioned decent ones are not so cheap here. So it appears like you've done a straight swap from a bubble counter to a flow meter. When dialing in the CO2 do you just leave the valve open on the flow meter and use the needle valve from the regulator for finer adjustments? I know the ones on those Mufan regulators aren't the best in the best in the world though. I recently upgraded one of my regulators from one.

Oh they seem to be getting even cheaper lol.

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for the price, it is a really good to have measuring device, similar low flow precision flow meter with precision valve are in the $200-$300 retail. (aalborg, cole parmer, porter/parker, Brooks...)
I thnk this 2.5-25ml air flow meter can handle up to 80sccm/ml co2 flow rate, increase the pressure inside the tube you gain higher flow volume.

The 2.5-25ml air flow rate is at 0 psig outlet pressure, which means the inlet pressure at about 3 psi for a pressure differential. The conversion factor from air to co2 is 0.8, multiply the floating ball reading by 0.8 you have the co2 flow rate.

Need calibration at different pressure if you want to have accurate/actual flow control.
 
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you can reverse this flow meter to upside down position, also reverse the glass tube inside, to have the flow control valve at outlet/TOP, this way the the pressure inside the glass tube is about the same pressure as regulator output pressure.

Then calibrate the actual co2 flow rate at certain desired regulator output pressure.

this is a co2 flow data sheet for a Key instruments flow meter, you can see with the pressure increase inside the glass tube, the co2 flow volume also increase, so calibration needed for different pressure setting.


you can check more details here.
 
for flow meter calibration at different pressure setting other than 0 psig(outlet):

you need another higher precision measuring device to get the actual flow at controlled condition, such as another higher precision glass tube flow meter or Mass flow meter(which I use).

if you don't have another direct flow rate measuring device, you can use a round shape party balloon to measure the co2 volume.
for example, to fill a balloon to 12cm diameter in an hour gives you 15sccm flow rate, then you can mark the glass tube scale(for air at 0 psig) with 15sccm(co2 at certain set pressure).
The 15sccm is a typical co2 injection rate for a 200L(55G) planted tank, it is about 4-5 bubbles per second.
 
Nice one, I was just chatting in another thread about flow meters. I started looking at the Dwyer models but as you mentioned decent ones are not so cheap here. So it appears like you've done a straight swap from a bubble counter to a flow meter. When dialing in the CO2 do you just leave the valve open on the flow meter and use the needle valve from the regulator for finer adjustments? I know the ones on those Mufan regulators aren't the best in the best in the world though. I recently upgraded one of my regulators from one.

Oh they seem to be getting even cheaper lol.

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I have kept an in line bubble counter at the moment, but think I will remove it as all it really tells me is if CO2 is on or not. I don’t use the needle valve that came with the Mufan, I have changed that out with the larger handled black one you see in a photo above. Actually think it may be the original mufan needle valve I am using as the outlet of the flow meter.
I use the main needle valve to set the CO2 in the ball park and then the valve on the flow meter is good for smaller adjustments.
They seem to come with either a red or a silver valve, the red was useless but the silver is okay.
I can’t believe they are even cheaper!! Is that with free postage still? I will order a backup I think.
 
for flow meter calibration at different pressure setting other than 0 psig(outlet):

you need another higher precision measuring device to get the actual flow at controlled condition, such as another higher precision glass tube flow meter or Mass flow meter(which I use).

if you don't have another direct flow rate measuring device, you can use a round shape party balloon to measure the co2 volume.
for example, to fill a balloon to 12cm diameter in an hour gives you 15sccm flow rate, then you can mark the glass tube scale(for air at 0 psig) with 15sccm(co2 at certain set pressure).
The 15sccm is a typical co2 injection rate for a 200L(55G) planted tank, it is about 4-5 bubbles per second.
Thank you for all the great information. I am wondering what the advantage would be of knowing the true ml/minute value after calibration?
At the moment I am happy with it giving consistent readings, which it seems to. But I doubt I even trust that the markings on the tube are spaced consistently or within scale. Even if calibrated I am not sure I would ever take the exact number as gospel.
 
I have kept an in line bubble counter at the moment, but think I will remove it as all it really tells me is if CO2 is on or not. I don’t use the needle valve that came with the Mufan, I have changed that out with the larger handled black one you see in a photo above. Actually think it may be the original mufan needle valve I am using as the outlet of the flow meter.
I use the main needle valve to set the CO2 in the ball park and then the valve on the flow meter is good for smaller adjustments.
They seem to come with either a red or a silver valve, the red was useless but the silver is okay.
I can’t believe they are even cheaper!! Is that with free postage still? I will order a backup I think.
@JacksonL sorry ignore that last deal, it was only for first time Ali shoppers, once I logged in it more than doubled lol
 
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Thank you for all the great information. I am wondering what the advantage would be of knowing the true ml/minute value after calibration?
Unless I am missing something I don't think there is one.

Funny on another forum we had a long discussion about this many years ago. The consensus was that like many things in this hobby absolute value means little. It's controlling relative values that matter.
 
Thank you for all the great information. I am wondering what the advantage would be of knowing the true ml/minute value after calibration?
At the moment I am happy with it giving consistent readings, which it seems to. But I doubt I even trust that the markings on the tube are spaced consistently or within scale. Even if calibrated I am not sure I would ever take the exact number as gospel.
It is true, you can use it as a bubble counter to hold and monitor the relatively steady low flow, and it is quite the effort if you want to calibrate and know the exact flow rate, but as a high precision low flow meter, the main purpose is to know the gas flow rate, so you will know exactly how much co2 injection for your planted tank, and how long your co2 cylinder will last before a refill.

The floating ball will drift over time for continues operation, glass tube flow meter need schedule maintenance to keep it clean, and schedule re-calibration in a longer period. If you only use it as a bubble counter, these extra steps can be partially omitted.
--If I happen to come across the same flow meter, I can measure and provide the generic co2 flow data sheet under varies pressure(in tube) settings.

anyway, it is a good device to have for low flow co2 injection, keep us updated with the result of its performance.
 
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