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Hello all, I used to be a regular across a few forums, but as of late I have backed off and have not been active at all. I am glad to have found this site and to see a few familiar members are actively posting. This might be a very long introduction post - you've been warned.

My name is Zach and I've always had tank(s) on the go. I started planted tanking about 14 years ago and I continue to learn new things each and every day.

My current tanks are a bit neglected. It's funny how life seems to just push forward, and soon enough your behind on a water change or two, that algae you had under control pops up again, you forget to mix up a batch of fertilizer and before you know it, you have a mess on your hands! - I hope you all enjoy the small moments where you can sit back, relax and watch your tanks as I do, regardless of how they look at that specific time.

Between a new job and building my garage / shop by myself, my tanks took a back seat. Then the news hit that I'll be a first time dad so my tanks were really put on hold as I prepped our house. Hopefully when the snow flies shortly I'll be able to fit my tanks into my schedule again.

Here are my current tanks, with a few older photo's:


45g Long - 48" x 12" x 18"

5 x 54w T5-HO
CO2 @ 25cc's / min
RO water target dosed to: 20ppm NO3, 7ppm PO4, 25ppm K, 30ppm Ca, 10ppm Mg
70% weekly water changes (every 2 weeks currently)
Rainbows mostly, with cherry barbs, angels and some corys (more on this in a minute)
ADA Aquasoil V2

40g Breeder - 36" x 18" x 16"
Low tech
Single, budget friendly RGB LED, 30 watts, on 75% power
50% water changes with tapwater (soft) target dosed with "some" Ca and "some" Mg
Osmocote Plus tabs only
Pool filter sand
1 super red bushy nose pleco, 1 remaining discus (more on this in a minute)

120g High - 60" x 18" x 26"
Currently empty with a breached bottom seal

So my struggles as of recent:

(keep in mind all of my time is spent building my shop / new job / dad-to-be during all of this)

45g was always meant to be my high tech tank, pushing PAR, CO2 and fertilizer to the limits. Rainbows and cherry barbs were the only planned livestock, lots of coloured up stem plants and a nice selection of "rare" colourful broad leaf plants. This was my first kick at the can with an active substrate, so it was also a bit experimental for me. I moved twice with this tank, and all 3 homes had a completely different water sources, so I've always used 100% RO. I recently swapped to my tapwater because I'm on a well now, and it's fairly soft + much easier to perform water changes. As soon as I swapped to tapwater though, plants took a huge hit, my aquasoil immediately began to break down, and the tank turned into a blackwater tank. I think I have it under control now, but algae is very much present and plants are not loving life. I'm just trying to hold on to a few of the species I really like until I can get around to a tank renovation. Eventually this tank will merge into a 6' 125 gallon tank - adjusting any aspect as I see fit for my "style" of keeping a tank.

40g Breeder was always meant to be a grow out tank for some small discus - easy to perform large water changes, nice wide footprint, and the price was spot on. When I figured out a larger tank, this 40g would become a perfect DIY sump. So I picked up 5 small discus to start - I've always wanted to try my take on discus, with some corys and a small school of cardinal tetra. Everything was going fairly well except they weren't really eating (brine shrimp, beef heart, flake, pellets, sticks). After some good (and bad) research, I got them devouring bloodworms and I figured this is great, fed them multiple times a day, everyone is happy - but they were not growing. Then they started losing weight, with clear symptoms of parasites in their feces. I got my hands on some meds and treated the whole tank - I was left with 3 of the 5.

At this point a 120 gallon was offered to me from a family member free of charge. It had their turtle in it and they were getting rid of her, so I said absolutely I'll take that tank off your hands! It held water with no issues at all (had a turtle a bunch of feeder goldies in it). I gave it some TLC and had that tank looking 90% brand new, I was happy. I built a stand to match our furniture, my partner agreed we could keep this tank in our living space (instead of in the basement "fish room"). I figured now would be best to get those discus out of the 40g and start fresh. So I set it up, and everything was perfect. Plants looked great, steady growth, no algae, simple design to focus more so on the fish. Over a few weeks, 2 of the 3 discus would eat (no bloodworms anymore, went right to brine shrimp and pellets). The other one would not touch anything. Then one morning before a business trip (I had 1 hour to leave the house from when I woke up) I was greeted by the sound of water splashing from the filters, and the tank 1/3 drained. My first thought would be a seal went bad on a filter, I've had that happen in the past, so I rushed and felt around the filters - bone dry! So I scrambled, grabbed a 45 gallon tote, transferred the fish, filters and heaters into it, drained the tank / removed the plants, threw every towel we own around the tank and set up every fan we own on high. I went about my business trip, and didn't enjoy 1 minute of it.

So, everything is now back into the 40g Breeder were the 1 never started eating again, and the last 2 discus fought and fought until one day, new dog found a discus dried up next to the tank leaving me with 1 discus remaining. The 120 gallon I will reseal over the winter and try again.

What has kept me motivated is the growth and colours of my rainbows. I am feeding them a lot, feeding them a varied diet of high quality foods and it's paying off - they look great.

So, if you've made it this far, here are some older photo's from when I had had everything under control! I'll make sure I snap a few photo's of how the tank actually look right now and post them a little later on.


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Wow, Zach! First and foremost, congratulations on being an expectant father! Being a father is the best thing in my life! Just a heads up, though. Everything changes as soon as your first child is born, in a good way. I warned you.

I love the tanks. Thanks for doing a build thread. Beautiful rainbows and discus.
 
Hey Zach good to see you here. We used to spend a good deal of time talking planted tanks not too many years ago and I always enjoyed your insights. I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with. For those that don't know Zach he's always shown a great ability to grow plants and also has the knack for creating a beautiful presentation as well.

Sorry to hear about the Discus. One nice thing about Bows is that in general they live a good long time and are easy to care for.

And congratulations on having a baby on the way. You are in for the ride of your life. One of mine just got married. Seems like I was just holding her as a baby yesterday. Time flies so enjoy every moment.
 
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Took a good long look at the 40 Breeder last night, and the algae is receding at a good rate. I'll have to tidy it up a bit during a water change and grab some photos for you all. The tiny super red bristlenose pleco is what caught my eye and kept my interest around long enough to take have a good long look. Usually it's tucked away underneath a heater, but it was out swimming about and on the glass.

Plants have finally started to show good, steady growth again too. This discus trail I am on has turned out to be very bumpy, lots of ups and lots of downs. Let's hope I've gained valuable experience for when it's time to try at it again.

As for the 45g rainbow tank, it's looking quite trashy. Fish are all doing very well, feeding very heavily to try and get some size on the bows. Once winter settles in I'm planning on doing a huge overhaul, deep substrate clean, huge plant thinning etc. re-calibrating my auto doser and getting back onto using RO again.

Stay tuned for some photo's.
 
Fish are all doing very well, feeding very heavily to try and get some size on the bows.
Yeah most Bows are VERY slow growers. I doubt feeding more will really speed up the process.

The good thing is as they mature, color up, and put on size it's worth the wait!!

I've got several new to the hobby species right now that are quite small so I am going through the same thing.
 
Yeah most Bows are VERY slow growers. I doubt feeding more will really speed up the process.

The good thing is as they mature, color up, and put on size it's worth the wait!!

I've got several new to the hobby species right now that are quite small so I am going through the same thing.

Can't wait to see those new fish of yours as they mature.

I know they are slow growers, I was never one to overfeed because everyone on the internet was saying how bad it was to over feed, nutrient loading, algae issues etc. etc. so I always fed sparingly. Reading the instructions on the food it says to feed as much as they can consume 3x per day, which I find a bit extreme.

I am already feeding them twice as much as what I "normally" would a few years ago, but even that much isn't even coming close to what the food container is telling me to.

Regardless, I am seeing slow but steady growth and great colours as of now. So I can't wait to see what they look like in a few years time.
 
Congrats on becoming a father. Awesome setups too. Could you tell me what the green plant sto the right of macrandra var and the other to the left of the buce are? Thanks
 
Congrats on becoming a father. Awesome setups too. Could you tell me what the green plant sto the right of macrandra var and the other to the left of the buce are? Thanks

To the right of R. Macrandra is Bacopa caroliniana.

I don't have any buce in this tank, but if you are talking about the green anubias nana 'petite' in the middle front, to the left of that is crypt beckettii 'petchii'
 
To the right of R. Macrandra is Bacopa caroliniana.

I don't have any buce in this tank, but if you are talking about the green anubias nana 'petite' in the middle front, to the left of that is crypt beckettii 'petchii'
Looks like I mixed up the pllants! To the right of what appears to be AR?
 

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Okay, here is your fair warning for sick looking plants and lots of algae!


Took a few hours last night and gave the 45g long back-to-back 75% water changes, and got the tank running on RO again. Removed every single plant, gravel vacuumed to the best of my ability, and stirred up as much junk as I could during draining. The tank is still not pretty, I'm going to have to hit up some LFS's over the holidays and stock up on a few species:

The tank as it sat:

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First drain + refill + my helper for the evening:

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And finally after the second drain, vacuum + fill + glass scrapped:

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Looking at it this morning, the water looks cleared right up, so I'm excited to see how it stands after work today. I'll have to do some re-arranging but I have a plan in my head on plants + placement that I'm excited to work on over the holidays!
 
Hey Quag great example of good old fashioned elbow grease!

Way to dive in and clean things up. I am looking forward to seeing where this goes.
 
Hey Quag great example of good old fashioned elbow grease!

Way to dive in and clean things up. I am looking forward to seeing where this goes.

I still have a lot to deep clean, but I'm really happy to be back into the RO game, and excited to get back onto a good water change regime.


Hopefully me showing this process will "prove" to others that manual labor cannot be underestimated in terms of turning a tank around.

All I have done / will be doing to turn this tank back into something special is physical maintenance and that's it.
 
I still have a lot to deep clean, but I'm really happy to be back into the RO game, and excited to get back onto a good water change regime.


Hopefully me showing this process will "prove" to others that manual labor cannot be underestimated in terms of turning a tank around.

All I have done / will be doing to turn this tank back into something special is physical maintenance and that's it.
LOL yes I have been saying this for years!

When most people see a truly fantastic tank they ask questions about light, ferts, etc and are looking for a "secret".

In my experience the only "secret" is that those folks are just working harder at it.
 
I've started with my new role, in a new company, and one of the products in our portfolio is a water insoluble granular phosphate fertilizer, with an extremely low salt index - we typically want as much PO4 available as early as possible for our crops, so having a completely seed safe phosphate fertilizer is very important.

Typically, most PO4 fertilizers are completely water soluble, and get "lost" in the CEC of soils (getting tied up with aluminum and calcium) which plants cannot easily utilize.

I'm hoping that our product will fit my 40 breeder tank very well, as I am trying to make that tank work with root tabs only (just to test my skills and see if it can be done).

So, it's not water soluble, so plant roots need to come in contact with the granule, release acids (root exudates) which will dissolve the granule and allow access to the phosphate. Interesting concept, I think I'm going to use some and see if I can notice anything.
 
So, it's not water soluble, so plant roots need to come in contact with the granule, release acids (root exudates) which will dissolve the granule and allow access to the phosphate. Interesting concept, I think I'm going to use some and see if I can notice anything.
Very interesting. Not often we have a new frontier being explored.

I am looking forward to seeing what if any difference you notice.
 
Very interesting. Not often we have a new frontier being explored.

I am looking forward to seeing what if any difference you notice.

Our trials show that when a root hair comes in contact with a granule, the root hair actually grows into the granule, slowly releasing exudates to further dissolve the fertilizer for plant uptake.

When a root hair comes into contact with a traditional, water soluble / higher salting fertilizer granule, it has to process the salt and typically will not grow directly on / touch the granule.
 
Update on what I've been up to:

45g is doing decent, algae took a strong hold after I did the major clean up. I'm mostly on top of it, but it's still persisting. I'm going to mix up a new batch of micros, check on my CO2 levels, and potentially see where I can improve.

My new tank came a lot quicker than I thought, so here is how it sits as of today:

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I wanted the entire front to come off the stand when I built it:

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I went with a very thin sand layer, piled up to ~ 2" - 2.5" where the majority of plants will be, and 3/4" - 1" where there won't be plants. I was having some very bad issues with anaerobic pockets and stinking up the room before the tank failure, and then again in the 40g Breeder - I increased flow and make sure to clean the sand very well during each water change. The good thing it, it's inert sand so I can always add more if I need to.

Going with strictly root tabs has been a struggle. When I set this tank up and plant it, I think I'll switch to a more proven method of water column ferts with the odd tab placed strategically. Keeping plants in 82-84 degree water temp. is hard enough, so why struggle with fertility when I "simply" don't have to. I've had good success in the past with low tech tanks, so hopefully I can regain that level of confidence.

Here is a photo of my old 90 gallon from 5+ years ago, lean water column dosing, root tabs, and moderate - high light. No CO2. It actually won a tank of the month contest a while back!

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