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Mg/Ca vs cladophora or black beard algae?

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I was going through my back issues of Aquatic Gardener, and came across this interesting investigation of the physiology of Cladophora and black beard algae. Specifically talking about their sensitivity to variations in the magnesium / calcium ratio of your GH.

The author spent quite a bit of time going through the commercial research into related algae for production purposes, and provides citations for what he found.

Anyone with a black beard or Cladophora outbreak want to give it a try?

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Damn! Interesting. Glad he tempers expectations at the end.

I currently run Ca~24ppm, Mg~6ppm in my large 150cm tank. I need at least 20ppm Ca for my caridinia and neocaridinia shrimps, so I can't try to restrict my Ca. It's interesting to consider a mechanism similar to gluteraldehyde with Mg: toxic to algae at a certain level but nontoxic to plants at the same level?

My initial gut feeling tells me that his findings probably are more akin to simply providing a large, non-limiting amount of magnesium to his plants (where algae can't make use of it).

If anyone has tanks without shrimp or livestock (or S repens or crypts lol) I want them to give this inverted ratio of Ca:Mg a try!
 
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Well but he's specifically investigating the role of Ca + Mg availability in stunting the lipid metabolism / cell wall sterol production in these species, to make them fragile and die off.

An interesting approach!

I was curious as to why he assumes that a high KH is also a standard practice, I wonder if that's the prevailing assumption in Brazilian aquascaping?
 
Very interesting indeed. I like that he emphasizes the relationship between Ca, Mg and K, how high levels of one can inhibit the uptake of another. I also like how he ultimately suspects the health of the plants is the main deterrent and not toxic levels of Mg, per sae

I doubt that a healthy planted aquarium could be achieved long term with such high Mg vs Ca and K. As he pointed out youd soon run into a faux K deficiency that simply adding more K wont fix (kinda like the "micro-tox" K pinholes Hygros are prone to get)

Personal experience: 10 years ago I was a huge fan of Mg, for all the reasons the author mentioned. The more the better I thought. But this was "book knowledge" an opinion formed on literature, not actual trials and experience. Ive ran as high as 2:3 with Ca, and 1:1 with K. The latter was a disaster but thats another story. I spent the most time with Ca:Mg in the 2:1-3:1 range (~5 years)

Plants did well at that level, obviously more was involved in that than just the Mg ratio, but it was a solid ratio to keep. Then I started backing down Mg. Using less slowly over time, for no specific reason. I never saw an adverse response to using less and less Mg. Fast forward 3-4 more years, Id stopped adding any extra at all to my tap water, which comes with about 35 Ca and 5 Mg. Ive been able to tell literally no difference and thats what I still run today

Take that for whatever its worth. Its just what Ive seen with my own tanks over the years growing about every plant we have in the hobby. I will also add that at no time was I running controlled Mg experiments. Its just what wound up happening. Was there ever a time when plant X was doing bad and adding another 5 Mg would help? Idk, its entirely possible. I did try that a couple different times, esp early on when Id first gotten back down to tap water levels. It didnt fix anything, but admittedly I havent proven beyond a doubt that having more wouldnt help...something
 
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