I’ve used both Gorilla super glue and Loctite super glue for hardscape before. Grabbed a new bottle of Gorilla glue today, got my rocks and wood all glued together, and now realize it’s the Original Gorilla Glue and NOT super glue. I’ve read conflicting reports on if it is safe or not. Anyone here with experience using it? Sheesh.
Gorilla Glue mistake
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So I don't have first hand experience. Here is the SDS for what I think you have: https://www.gorillatough.com/wp-content/uploads/SDS-Update_Original-Gorilla-Glue-v1.5.pdf
If you look at section 12, it shows Ecological Impacts. I have no idea what that means, however.
The conservative route would be to start again. My route would likely be to soak it for some time to make sure it dries, then use it.
If you look at section 12, it shows Ecological Impacts. I have no idea what that means, however.
The conservative route would be to start again. My route would likely be to soak it for some time to make sure it dries, then use it.
In the Safety Data Sheet, they say their tests show non-toxic to zebrafish, ricefish and daphnia.
LC0 refers to maximum tolerable / highest non-lethal concentration, LC 50 is the concentration it takes to kill 50% of a population. In all categories they list over the maximum, meaning they were not able to demonstrate a toxicity in any of the tests.
The 0% biodegradation at 28 days would support this as well!
The line talking about "Additive toxicity" to Fathead minnows refers to the toxicity level of this substance in combination with some other environmental toxin stressor. They use Fathead minnow as a cold water fish, so possibly some organophosphate or carbamate is the other substance. Because they don't specify, it's likely it's a theoretical additive that's used in a new modeling for toxicity that tries to predict how this might react in combination in the environment. I don't know if 134 G/L has some specific meaning in that model, but certainly for something that does not break down in the environment it would take an enormous quantity of glue to give you 13.4% concentration of the material in your tank.
It's important to notice the line that says "Bioaccumulation Potential :.. does not bioaccumulate" in the tissues of fish.
If it's not accumulating, and they weren't able to kill 50% of the fish or daphnia over the maximum test level, then this SDS is saying that it's safe for your fish and shrimps.
LC0 refers to maximum tolerable / highest non-lethal concentration, LC 50 is the concentration it takes to kill 50% of a population. In all categories they list over the maximum, meaning they were not able to demonstrate a toxicity in any of the tests.
The 0% biodegradation at 28 days would support this as well!
The line talking about "Additive toxicity" to Fathead minnows refers to the toxicity level of this substance in combination with some other environmental toxin stressor. They use Fathead minnow as a cold water fish, so possibly some organophosphate or carbamate is the other substance. Because they don't specify, it's likely it's a theoretical additive that's used in a new modeling for toxicity that tries to predict how this might react in combination in the environment. I don't know if 134 G/L has some specific meaning in that model, but certainly for something that does not break down in the environment it would take an enormous quantity of glue to give you 13.4% concentration of the material in your tank.
It's important to notice the line that says "Bioaccumulation Potential :.. does not bioaccumulate" in the tissues of fish.
If it's not accumulating, and they weren't able to kill 50% of the fish or daphnia over the maximum test level, then this SDS is saying that it's safe for your fish and shrimps.
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Mr.Shenanagins
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I ran into this problem a while back too, not sure if you made the same mistake.
Thread 'Gorilla Glue-Watch out!'
Gorilla Glue-Watch out!
Now if you’re referring to the actual original, the yellowish glue that will dry and expand, I have first hand experience with it. I used it as an anchor to connect a piece of wood to stone. Knowing it would expand I drilled a hole in the bottom of the wood so that it would expand into the hole and get a good grip. It held until I ripped it off myself when I Rescaped years ago. Didn’t notice any affects to livestock
Thread 'Gorilla Glue-Watch out!'
Gorilla Glue-Watch out!
Now if you’re referring to the actual original, the yellowish glue that will dry and expand, I have first hand experience with it. I used it as an anchor to connect a piece of wood to stone. Knowing it would expand I drilled a hole in the bottom of the wood so that it would expand into the hole and get a good grip. It held until I ripped it off myself when I Rescaped years ago. Didn’t notice any affects to livestock
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Wow, @Koan. I find it completely amazing that you understand all of this. Thanks so much for interpreting it for me.
According to their website, it cures in 24 hours. I will probably wait an extra day or two before placing it in the tank (dwarf Corydoras and RCS.).
And thanks @Mr.Shenanagins for the first hand report. I’m feeling much better now. Whew.
According to their website, it cures in 24 hours. I will probably wait an extra day or two before placing it in the tank (dwarf Corydoras and RCS.).
And thanks @Mr.Shenanagins for the first hand report. I’m feeling much better now. Whew.
Nah just one of those random skills you pick up along the way.. I was a real terror at Trivial Pursuit back in the day
I do find it mildly disturbing that they misspelled Danio
Krandall
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I can't read that either. But I DO know that this is EXACTLY the same chemical as "Great Stuff" expanding foam in the can... without the propellent. Which dart frog people, with their terribly expensive, incredibly fragile frogs, whose skin shouldn't be touched by human hands use all.the.time.
People (like myself) who build paludariums ALSO use it in their builds all the time, with water running over it, and into the water areas, where fish happily swim, and reproduce with no problem at all. This paludarium has (original) Gorilla Glue all through it, and it has never hurt any of the inhabitants one bit!
People (like myself) who build paludariums ALSO use it in their builds all the time, with water running over it, and into the water areas, where fish happily swim, and reproduce with no problem at all. This paludarium has (original) Gorilla Glue all through it, and it has never hurt any of the inhabitants one bit!
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